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    10083 m sysop 3
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    hi frieda

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    9300 m sysop 3
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    hi rhonda

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    Hi, George. Glad someone's here with me.

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    Hi, Deborah.

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    Hi, glade someone else has joined.

    683 m JulieBergeron 3
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    hello seekers i'll be in snocaps for my discussion

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    Did you get my email on what we did.

    7683 m Deborah
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    Hi, everyone!

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    in class last week?

    21116 i Becky
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    5416 m RMcMahon
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    Hi, Becky.

    3216 m Becky
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    Hi

    9116 m Becky
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    are we chatting now

    3433 m Deborah
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    Hi, Becky!

    3566 m sysop 3
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    OK ... time to start up your disussion

    18833 m RMcMahon
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    Our group has been researching WebQuests.

    26616 m RMcMahon
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    I'm very interested in them because I often wonder if I am using technology well in my class.

    15016 m Becky
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    I wonder about the same thing

    7533 m farmour
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    Yes, quite an interesting interactive teaching strategy

    733 m RMcMahon
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    Or like you said in the other chat room Becky, how do I know if the kids are learning?

    25550 m Becky
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    WebQuests seem an easy way to begin using technology

    750 m JulieBergeron 3
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    you said my webquest resource sight has moved?George where is the stuff from this summer

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    19050 m Becky
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    Research seems to say that the students are more attentive with multimedia

    13333 m RMcMahon
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    I read an article in Tech Trend by Jennifer Summerville and she has been using WebQuest with Preservice teac

    3566 m RMcMahon
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    hers.

    10100 m Becky
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    but the same study said that ther grades didn't improve

    5450 m Deborah
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    I think Webquests can be helpful in that they can allow you to set parameters for "information searches."

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    6733 m Becky
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    I like that aspect

    3150 m RMcMahon
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    My Gifted students certainly are. And it allows for independent learning.

    18200 m Becky
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    I find myself that there is so much information it is overwhelming

    716 m lblakley
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    What do you like becky?

    7166 m RMcMahon
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    I agree Becky.

    12266 m Becky
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    I like limiting searches for the kids

    600 m JulieBergeron 3
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    spring smemester someone did research on blocking anbd filtersit was said then that webquests were an excellent alternative to filters

    12783 m RMcMahon
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    I began toying with making my own WebQuest this week.

    2433 m chippa4
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    independent learning.

    2333 m Becky
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    we are essentially setting our own filters

    3450 m chippa4
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    what a concept!

    8916 m RMcMahon
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    It's not easy. You REALLY have to know your topic to do it well.

    5066 m Becky
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    is it an oxymoron?

    6750 m JulieBergeron 3
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    you could make your own but there are websites with webquests already done for you

    8816 m Becky
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    I know, but maybe if we start small

    8200 m RMcMahon
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    Yes, I know. But they are not specific to my students.

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    750 m Deborah
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    perhaps so, Becky

    7683 m RMcMahon
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    I can use someone else's site but that's like using someone else's lesson plans--hard to do.

    25583 m Becky
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    I believe in "standing on the shoulders of giants", but I agree Rhonda, I need specifics

    8133 m Deborah
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    Julie, Do you have a particluar website in mind for webquests?

    12483 m JulieBergeron 3
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    my website has links to ovefr 100

    8933 m Connie
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    Becky, that's what Sir Issac Newton said...

    6966 m Becky
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    Who?

    3633 m JulieBergeron 3
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    i did it this summer as my final preoject

    8716 i RaeNell
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    2150 m RMcMahon
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    I'm really excited about the concept, h owever, and want to share it with other teachers. I know, though if it intimidates me (and I'm comfortable with technology) then it will really intimidate teachers who are not.

    6350 m Connie
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    One of the greatest minds in science..you know Newton.

    550 m Becky
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    Juile, how many of those have you used?

    50 m JulieBergeron 3
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    i didn't write the webquests, but i reviewed gthem for content befofre i chose to put them on my site

    7233 m RMcMahon
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    It goes back to teacher training.

    2583 m farmour
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    I've reviewed some of the Treasure Hunt strategies for assisting students in building solid knowledge and I thing that this process will be beneficial to student learning

    4416 m JulieBergeron 3
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    they are divided into k-3 4-6 7-8

    5050 m Becky
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    Oh yeah, I heard about him in Longstreet's class

    12666 m RMcMahon
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    I agree, Frieda.

    4800 m JulieBergeron 3
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    none yet internet not up and running in my lab yegt

    22816 m Connie
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    Becky...so I agree learn from those who know more than you and you will progress for sure.

    10400 m JulieBergeron 3
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    but i intend to use as many as possible coordinating with teachers about subjects and topics studentgs are currentgly engaged in and following thru in the lab

    5666 m Deborah
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    Julie, care to share your website url?

    6350 m chippa4
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    you need a real tech coordinator

    5866 m RMcMahon
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    The "official" website for webQuests is edweb.sdsu.edu/webquest/webquest.html

    7950 m JulieBergeron 3
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    george?? someone said they tried to link to summer authors and couldn't find it

    5500 m Becky
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    Thanks, Rhonda

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    3933 m JulieBergeron 3
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    thanks rae

    4216 m farmour
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    I believe this is an excellent tool for motivating students.

    10883 m JulieBergeron 3
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    i'll have gto look that one up

    21916 m RMcMahon
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    I think so too, Frieda, that site gives a lot of information about creating your own. Takes a lot of time though.

    750 m Becky
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    I think that the students would be very motivated, but are they learning more than with ordinary means?

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    11733 m RMcMahon
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    That might depend on the students. I know the more technology I use, the more my students learn.

    30366 m RMcMahon
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    For instance, we can read about the Age of Exploration and answer questions.

    16600 m Becky
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    Please, don't misunderstand me, I am a firm believer in the use of technology, I just want to be sure that I am giving the students the best experience

    7966 m JulieBergeron 3
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    many compugters?

    7083 m Connie
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    My students seems to benefit most when work on multi-media project together. We incorporte this type of learning in both science and social studies in 5th grade at my school. The kids love it and learn.

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    2550 m JulieBergeron 3
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    do you have prfojector? how many compouters? how do you incorporate into lesson

    3100 m RMcMahon
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    Or we can read about it and create magazines or newspapers set during that time frame. My gifted kids love that stuff and it stays with them--which is my judge of true learning.

    15816 m Becky
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    Do you find their grades are improving?

    23316 m farmour
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    Yes. If they are allow to take part in any authentic learning experience, it can only enhance their learning.

    29516 m Deborah
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    Becky, how are you presently using technology in your classroom?

    2250 m Becky
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    I am afraid that we will need to prove to the administration that the students are improving, and unfortunaely this means standardized test scores

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    1766 m RMcMahon
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    Yes, when they do multi-media stuff they retain the knowledge longer and do much better on their nine weeks exams

    15050 m RMcMahon
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    when we don't have projects they don't do as well.

    6866 m JulieBergeron 3
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    becky i'm afraid youre rightr?!

    3200 m Connie
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    RaeNell..you are absolutely correct!

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    I agree.

    14133 m Becky
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    My students create powerpoint presentations, use Excel worksheets, and complete Internet assignements

    1850 m lblakley
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    ditto Frieda.

    12900 m RMcMahon
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    It's a shame it always comes down to standardized test scores isn't it.

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    I'm jealous

    6116 m Connie
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    Becky, who teaches the kids to use this media..you?

    3033 m chippa4
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    bottom line

    6450 m JulieBergeron 3
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    that's awesome and they're learning what they need for a real job too

    5466 m RMcMahon
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    And I bet they love your class, Becky.

    5900 m Becky
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    Some, i have to model it the first time

    16166 m RMcMahon
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    Do they also teach each other? Mine do.

    23366 m Becky
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    Maybe, we tend to try too much sometimes, thanks Rhonda, you will have to ask Emily

    5833 m farmour
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    Teachers must spend a lot of time prepaing for this interactive exercise.

    1416 m Connie
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    Does that take away time from you teaching your curriculum? We are all on a time line.

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    How many students? Computers?

    22550 m RMcMahon
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    Emily already Instant Messaged me about you. She really loves your class.

    1483 m lblakley
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    Becky, do you see improvement in grades for those subjects that you have incorporated the use of computers?

    12366 m Becky
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    I have 25-30 students, I can sign out 6 laptops and connect them to the Internet

    2766 m Deborah
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    Becky, I believe this is one of the functions of technology in the classroom - to use it as a "tool" to accomplish a goal - not as an end in itself

    5900 m FredW
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    WOW!

    12016 m Becky
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    grade improvements, not yet

    3700 m sysop 3
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    OK ... take a 4 minute break ... catch your breath (rest your hands) ... SnoCaps is next, Seekers continue on ...

    4300 m RMcMahon
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    I sometimes feel like I'm playing catch up Connie. Like I have to cover all of the book and do the multimedia stuff.

    3033 m FredW
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    How much skill do they possess--on average?

    1316 m Becky
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    Fred, how many computers do you have access to

    20166 m FredW
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    A lab of 15--one in my room

    3166 m lblakley
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    I agree Deborah. It is a tool to assist students in learning a particular subject.

    5900 m Connie
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    Becky, so what is the solution? Teach the tech. and shorten the curriculum?

    5966 m Becky
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    pretty skilled, mostly middle class kids with a computer at home

    7133 m RMcMahon
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    Problem is the kids don't think they're doing anything if they're not taking notes and answering questions from the book.

    12300 m FredW
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    I am in a different enviorment.

    5333 m Becky
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    Connie, a real problem, I think we are going to have to pare down our curriculum

    8233 m farmour
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    So am I.

    5116 m JulieBergeron 3
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    fred my lab will ahve 15 but my kindegarten class is 25

    8916 m RMcMahon
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    Curriculum compacting, Connie. That's what we do in Gifted. Only works though on the bright ones.

    9100 m FredW
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    I have to share that lab with all of the other teachers.

    2683 m Connie
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    That is my opinion too. Teach less content and incorporte tech. and hands on learning labs in science.

    66 m lblakley
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    RMcMahon, We teachers need to change that attitude.

    116 m Deborah
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    I am not sure as to whether I am still connected to the Seekers group discussion. Someone, please confirm me if you see this message see

    8566 m RMcMahon
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    Yes, you are.

    2066 m JulieBergeron 3
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    yes isee yiou deb

    1033 m Becky
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    sorry deborah

    21983 m Becky
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    I talk too much, even in chats!

    4366 m RMcMahon
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    This is much more tiring than regular class, George.

    9500 m FredW
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    What if you introduce the technology and only see blank stares in the room of 33 kids?

    6916 m farmour
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    I use curriculum compacting with my regular ed students and its working.

    18666 m Becky
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    I think that the students have to buy into my enthusiasm

    1500 m chippa4
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    like you've never seen that before Freddy

    4816 m RMcMahon
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    I think many teachers are scared. They, too, suffer from wondering if the kids are learning.

    4283 m Connie
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    Fred...what is curriculum compacting?>

    1800 m Becky
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    for instance, i told them all about this class tonight

    7800 m FredW
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    I have, thus the question.

    4716 m Becky
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    they want to know how it workd

    6433 m sysop 3
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    SnoCaps is next, Seekers continue on, pick one

    9666 m RMcMahon
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    I've used it with regular ed too Frieda but it's harder. You must work really hard. Good for you.

    9750 m Becky
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    I would love to do this, maybe for an hour the night before the test to answer questions

    44600 m Becky
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    But, I am sure it is me, the frenetic pace of this is making me crazy

    12050 m RMcMahon
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    It would be great for your population, Becky, because like mine I'm sure they;re chatting every night anyway.

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    guided chat

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    19833 m RMcMahon
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    Guided is right. Definitely better than what they're doing now, I bet.

    500 m Becky
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    are we supposed to go to snocaps now?

    12416 m RMcMahon
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    I think so. Besides my fingers are tire.

    3750 m RMcMahon
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    tired.

    9183 m Becky
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    freudian slip

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    Seekers should continue their chat

    7950 m Becky
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    thanks big brother

    6566 m Deborah
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    Big

    10800 m RMcMahon
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    Oh, sure. Thanks George.

    2750 m Deborah
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    Sorry

    11433 m Becky
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    Deborah, you are so bad

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    3116 m Becky
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    at least the time is going fast

    8283 m RMcMahon
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    True.

    18883 m Deborah
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    Becky, what did I do?

    7300 m pat obrien-murphy
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    rhonda where did you find the information about the 11 tasks?

    13016 m RMcMahon
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    I have open house tomorrow and I want to share some oft his webQuest stuff with parents.

    2950 m Becky
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    Nothing, I am just picking on you

    13350 m RMcMahon
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    On the "official" WebQuest page.

    4400 m Becky
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    are you going to set up a powerpoint

    3266 m Becky
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    to show them

    13866 m RMcMahon
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    edweb.sdsu.edu/webquest/webquest.html

    3283 m Deborah
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    Well, at least I know that I am still on the "radar."

    24533 m Becky
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    of course

    18683 m Becky
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    I think we missed a break, my butt is asleep

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    3016 m RMcMahon
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    I'm going to connect them straight to the Internet and hook it up to our television. I don't have an Overhead.

    14750 m Becky
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    that's a great idea

    9500 m Connie
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    That what we do at Newman

    11533 m RMcMahon
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    I also use this web-based Calendar, called JointPlanning, to email deadlines and assignments to them so they know what's going on.

    20733 m Becky
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    the "To Kill A Mockingbird" example is a good one

    7183 m RMcMahon
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    Since the kids know more than most of the parents, I have a lot of demonstrating to do.

    7233 m RMcMahon
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    Great, thanks. I'll use it.

    3033 m Connie
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    RaeNell..our school has an on-line homework site for kids. It seems to be working well so far. This is its first year.

    2483 m Becky
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    the parents are so impressed

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    1250 m RMcMahon
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    My daughter has that at McGehee. The problem is, I forget to check it. With JointPlanning it emails me so as long as I check my email every day, I know what's going on.

    6916 m Connie
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    Becky..help me out here...What is the topic in this chat room.

    8166 m RMcMahon
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    WebQuests.

    13116 m RMcMahon
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    It somehow got on to all multimedia.

    11133 m Becky
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    sorry, i had to go stir the stwe

    9850 m Becky
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    stew

    12033 m RMcMahon
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    Sure, you were just giving your butt a break.

    2050 m Becky
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    what is the topic for SnoCaps

    4216 m Becky
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    that too

    14333 m RMcMahon
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    I don't remember.

    16333 m Becky
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    Connie, what is your topic

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    11800 m Deborah
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    The topic in SnoCaps is Instructional Design Models

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    1433 m Becky
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    George, this is really tiring, thanks Deb

    15633 m Becky
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    any snocaps here?

    2083 m RMcMahon
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    If there was any doubt in my mind that WebQuests did not require Higher order thinking skills, it was erased when I tried to create my own.

    10216 m chippa4
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    seekers, don't forget your attendance and journals.

    11166 m RMcMahon
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    Thanks, Chip.

    650 m Becky
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    it is harder than i thought too

    11866 m Deborah
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    Thanks, Chip!!!!!!!!!

    3500 m Becky
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    thanks, chip

    26483 m RMcMahon
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    Once you have several done, though, imagine what would happen!

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    24483 m Becky
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    once you have several done, send them to me!!!

    14083 m RMcMahon
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    :)

    20933 m RMcMahon
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    Isn't our group finished now? I'd rather be lurking. It's easier.

    9233 m Becky
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    Yes, let's go lurk

    34083 m RMcMahon
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    Alright, George, we're done then?

    15150 m RMcMahon
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    I have Carpal Tunnel now.

    5116 m chippa4
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    "E" are you lurking?

    26516 i farmour
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    47183 m sysop 3
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    OK ... take a 4 minute break ... since all groups have had a chance to chat

    7666 m sysop 3
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    ... it will be OK to chat about your chatting experience ... what works, what doesn't.

    7750 m sysop 3
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    Edtechs is next, SnoCaps continue on ...

    245016 m sysop 3
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    visit SnoCaps - Instructional Design Models

    135800 i FredW
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    9766 m FredW
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    No chat?

    19233 m RMcMahon
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    We're tired, Fred. And everyone deserted me.

    24016 m FredW
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    I know what it is like to have people flee.

    49400 m RMcMahon
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    Apparently, my misspellings bored them.

    24833 m FredW
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    How do you think this is going?

    24583 m RMcMahon
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    I find this chatting much more tiring than class chatting. At this rate, I'm never going to get Alzheimer's because my brain is definitely learning something new.

    30916 m FredW
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    Are you clear on which table you are supposed to vist when your group chats?

    9550 m RMcMahon
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    I'm not much at talking in class, though, and I think I "talk" more here.

    25216 m RMcMahon
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    I've got three windows open. Visiting is not tiring. Having your own chat is.

    18000 m RMcMahon
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    I figure if I visit most of them I can't go wrong.

    6266 m FredW
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    Does the group whose name leads that part on the syllabus have the chat area where the chat takes plae?

    17916 m RMcMahon
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    Yes. I think so.

    28350 m FredW
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    Hurray! I figured something out. I would never have beeenvoted off of the island!

    6233 m RMcMahon
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    Right now edtechs and snocaps should be having two separate chats on each of their topics.

    23716 m FredW
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    "I am slow of study"

    6066 m RMcMahon
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    I'll give you a cool virtual million right now for that insight.

    7916 m RMcMahon
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    $$$$$$$$$$

    3166 m FredW
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    Line from Will's MDND

    14816 m RMcMahon
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    MDND?

    10683 m FredW
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    MSND

    15850 m FredW
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    This is tiring

    12716 m RMcMahon
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    Yep. I am slow of typing.

    20183 m FredW
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    I am not deserting you, but I am too nosy to click still.

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    18116 m RMcMahon
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    The seekers are seeking some Dragon Speak right about now.

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    4716 m Dana Chaplow 2
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    to seek, to find, never to yield

    583 m RMcMahon
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    Welcome, Dana.

    8416 m Dana Chaplow 2
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    thanks

    2950 i Deborah
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    17533 m RMcMahon
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    Yeah, I know. I'm all alone. My group has deserted me. Oops. There's Deborah.

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    5866 m RMcMahon
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    Hey, Chip.

    6583 m chippa3
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    howdy

    1683 m Deborah
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    Yes, Im here. Why? I'm not sure.

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    It's home for some of us

    4633 m RMcMahon
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    We're supposed to be talking about WebQuests agan.

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    2933 m RMcMahon
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    I'm all chatted out I believe.

    16083 m sysop 2
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    The Seekers - Are webquests the answer to "safe surfing?"

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    And I'd hate to monopolize you know, so feel free to take over.

    2016 m Deborah
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    Ditto, Raenell

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    you better believe it

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    Yes.

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    they are the hook

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    Do I get an A, George?

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    that depends on your self eval

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    2000 m RMcMahon
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    I think WebQuests are part of an answer.

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    1750 i pat obrien-murphy
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    31216 m RMcMahon
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    I don't think there is ever going to be a perfectly safe search. But then again you can search

    9616 m RMcMahon
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    inappropriate topics in books too.

    9300 m pat obrien-murphy
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    rhonda, where did you find that information about the 11 tasks for webquests?

    7683 m RMcMahon
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    The "Joy of Sex" was quite popular inmy high school.

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    a popular site?

    7933 i Connie
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    5166 m RMcMahon
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    edweb.sdsu.edu/webquest/webquest.html I believe.

    11666 m pat obrien-murphy
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    thanks

    2383 m JulieBergeron 3
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    webquests are safe surfing without ther filter because the eteache ris directly responsible for setting up the links

    10933 m RMcMahon
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    No, popular book. I meant when I was in high school.

    12933 m Dana Chaplow 2
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    yes. . but the kids can go beyond those links julies

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    1050 m RMcMahon
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    They are SAFER surfing. Nothing is safe. Not even if you are sitting right there with the kid.

    11850 m Dana Chaplow 2
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    I have a question.

    4833 m pat obrien-murphy
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    how true

    11200 i farmour
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    4250 m JulieBergeron 3
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    yes but the teacher is still to keep the children on task

    9116 m RMcMahon
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    I had a kid at Sparkle this summer who searched for anmial pictures and up popped 15 porn sites. We were right there.

    8500 m pat obrien-murphy
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    if you walk around you can

    1066 m JulieBergeron 3
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    and if the teacher wrote tnhe webquest then she knows whaat links they should bew on

    4316 m Dana Chaplow 2
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    Say I create a webquest that sends a student to a site, which then links ot pornography. I didn't send them to the porn, but in a way guided them Then what!

    3983 m pat obrien-murphy
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    most times

    5566 m RMcMahon
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    Many children stay on task. It's the accidents that happen TO them.

    8566 m Mark Lasserre
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    ouch

    19183 m pat obrien-murphy
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    do you check out the links first?

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    13750 m Dana Chaplow 2
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    it is impossible to do that

    13466 m RMcMahon
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    I would. But if a kid is searching that's not always possible.

    9616 m pat obrien-murphy
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    are we still talking about webquesta?

    11266 m Mark Lasserre
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    AOL
    School is helping us lock down Internet access.

    11616 m Dana Chaplow 2
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    When creating a webquest it is not possible to chek every link - - if would be infinite

    1250 m RMcMahon
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    At home once we went to a site we had been to before and a new pornographic banner popped up.

    10783 m pat obrien-murphy
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    wow

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    5083 m JulieBergeron 3
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    mark i still don;t understand the underlying filter of aol at school

    9150 m RMcMahon
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    But, Mark, do they screen out the good stuff as well?

    7433 m Mark Lasserre
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    all sites are approved by teachers

    3500 m JulieBergeron 3
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    thats true dana and rae

    4100 m Dana Chaplow 2
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    like Moby Dick?

    766 m pat obrien-murphy
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    does it work better than the commercial software packages?

    5333 m Mark Lasserre
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    what "good stuff?"

    4766 m RMcMahon
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    If I looked for coins exchange would it lock me out?

    9083 m pat obrien-murphy
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    bye

    23033 m Mark Lasserre
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    I believe you will find what you are looking for.

    13116 m Connie
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    What type of internet filtration devices do you all see in the future.

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    1333 m RMcMahon
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    The filters I've seen lock out combinations of letters like coinS EXchange.

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    8133 m Mark Lasserre
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    hi Pat

    5650 m pat obrien-murphy
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    hi again

    133 m Mark Lasserre
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    No,

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    each site is reviewed.

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    Generic filters are not used

    6166 m pat obrien-murphy
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    i went back to our site but it was vacant

    7866 m Dana Chaplow 2
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    Is there a cost for this aol filter?

    2700 m RMcMahon
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    How does it work? Pretty well?

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    We love it.

    8466 m pat obrien-murphy
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    are you happy with it?

    650 m Mark Lasserre
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    The problem of the Web is too much stuff.

    4666 m pat obrien-murphy
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    agreed

    2716 m Dana Chaplow 2
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    It sounds like censorship to me -- the library media specialist talking

    2200 m Connie
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    agree

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    Some students hate it

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    because they were used

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    to playing around with the Web

    716 m RMcMahon
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    I agree. That's what I like about webquests. It narrows down the information for the students.

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    where they were not supposed to be.

    5566 m pat obrien-murphy
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    can you modulate the censorship?

    2416 m Mark Lasserre
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    WebQuests are vital

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    Pat---yes

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    you may submit Web sites for additions

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    Teachers may have total access

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    I'm very fortunate, I guess. My kids don't (I shouldn't say that cuz now they will) go to those places during class.

    250 m Dana Chaplow 2
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    Have you guys made webquests? Perhaps we can post our urls for each other next week?!

    13366 m pat obrien-murphy
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    how deep do the link filters go?

    9550 m Connie
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    dana..that would be helpful

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    It blocks banner ads!

    2533 m RMcMahon
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    I'm working on one Dana but it's harder than I thought it would be.

    1966 m pat obrien-murphy
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    wow

    2316 m Mark Lasserre
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    That's pretty powerful

    5966 m RMcMahon
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    I hate banner ads.

    900 m Mark Lasserre
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    Search engines are blocked

    6683 m Dana Chaplow 2
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    i made a really good one this summer that I want to share

    3266 m Mark Lasserre
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    Yahoo can get very nasty

    3266 m pat obrien-murphy
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    how do you search then?

    3983 m Mark Lasserre
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    AOLFind

    6116 m pat obrien-murphy
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    oh

    5150 m RMcMahon
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    Please do. Looking at other webquests helps me format my own.

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    13250 m Mark Lasserre
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    the search engine is tied to the content available.

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    So it's very fast.

    1766 m Dana Chaplow 2
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    I am just suspicious of AOL -- kinda like geoge with microsoft

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    I like the product (it's free)

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    12616 m Mark Lasserre
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    It works with the proxy server too

    5266 m RMcMahon
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    Dana, do you have the url for your webquest?

    11600 m pat obrien-murphy
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    free no attachments?

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    9066 m Dana Chaplow 2
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    www.tec.uno.edu/AuthorsSummer2000/DChaplow/night

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    that's right Pat...unreal

    1283 m RMcMahon
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    I've seen some great ones. It's very intimidating when you're trying to make your own.

    4783 m RMcMahon
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    Thanks.

    4716 m Mark Lasserre
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    each student can get his or her own username

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    or you can do generic users

    6116 m pat obrien-murphy
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    and the filter is specified for them?

    4683 m Mark Lasserre
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    that's right

    9833 m Mark Lasserre
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    you can filter by group or individual

    5350 m pat obrien-murphy
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    wow

    2050 m Mark Lasserre
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    sites are selected by grade level too

    12933 m Mark Lasserre
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    you can have elementary school filters

    5250 m Dana Chaplow 2
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    Who is the great selection god here?

    416 m Connie
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    Mark..that's helpful

    383 m Barbara Saleem
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    I like to try making a Web Quest. Is there a guide out there?

    2116 m RMcMahon
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    Dana, did you use the "official" webquest site when you were designing yours? And did y ou find it hellpful

    2600 m pat obrien-murphy
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    what does aol get out of it?

    1666 m Mark Lasserre
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    for the fourth grade and middle school filters for fifth grade

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    14716 m RMcMahon
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    Barbara, Filamentality from our Links page is good.

    216 m pat obrien-murphy
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    barbara, check out the bernie dodge sie

    1416 m Mark Lasserre
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    enlarging its 25,000,000 user base

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    site

    11733 m Dana Chaplow 2
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    Webquest -- i used it as a basic guide, but did not follow it very much at all

    3200 m pat obrien-murphy
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    Mark- makes sense

    150 m RMcMahon
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    So is Dodge's site. edweb.sdsu.edu/webquest/webquest.html

    13116 m Mark Lasserre
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    maybe you can see it in action in November

    7150 m Dana Chaplow 2
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    filamentality.com foolproof webquests

    15316 m pat obrien-murphy
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    i'm counting on it

    433 m RMcMahon
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    That's what I was feeling like--a fool.

    5483 m Dana Chaplow 2
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    Back to AOL -- who selects these sites?

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    7116 m Barbara Saleem
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    Mark, What's happening in November?

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    4333 m Mark Lasserre
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    Amer. Lib. Assn. and a teachers' group

    4866 m RMcMahon
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    The problem with so many of these things is the time it takes to learn and implement them.

    9750 m sysop 2
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    Very good job ... on our first attempt. Our discussion tables usually were equal in number of chatters ... this is good.

    10200 m Dana Chaplow 2
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    Ohhh. . . now i may be interested

    1666 m sysop 2
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    Everone is welcome at the Group Chat Table to wind down ... chit chat ... and say goodbyes.

    2283 m JulieBergeron 3
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    i'm tryin g to add to jkournal but i keep getting ewrror messages

    9700 m Mark Lasserre
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    If ALA is behind it...I am for it.

    6450 m RMcMahon
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    Does that mean Seekers is done? I'm tired.

    2383 m sysop 2
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    Remember to Journal tonight.

    10050 m Mark Lasserre
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    SnoCaps now George?

    3516 m Barbara Saleem
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    George, I had to switch from explorer to netscape to logon.

    350 m Dana Chaplow 2
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    ALA is a powerful group

    15083 m sysop 2
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    Remember where class is next week. Most of my Tuesday night class will join us on this field trip.

    5766 m Mark Lasserre
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    ..but I believe they have the agenda in order

    9500 m Dana Chaplow 2
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    certainly

    7266 m Dana Chaplow 2
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    I am a member.

    8733 m Mark Lasserre
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    kewl

    4800 m sysop 2
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    It occurs to me that everyone should post a message in their own Group's disscussion area about what was learned tonight ... about the group's topic and/or about chatting as a media to using is education.

    7650 i Deborah
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    16933 m Mark Lasserre
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    George---will you post a transcript of the chats?

    583 m Dana Chaplow 2
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    so are you folks ready ot head to the swamp next week/

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    15783 m Mark Lasserre
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    What's the address in Destrahan anybody?

    9266 m Dana Chaplow 2
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    #00231 Wildcat Lane

    9483 m Dana Chaplow 2
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    George posted detailed directions

    4516 m Mark Lasserre
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    thanks

    26633 m Dana Chaplow 2
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    see you all then. bye for now.

    9050 m sysop 2
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    Great job folks, Thanks so much

    4816 m sysop 2
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    Who is sysop

    9116 m Mark Lasserre
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    Cyclops?

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    thanks

    15250 m Deborah
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    From our discussion on Webquests, I will survey some of the webquest sites for possible use in the class. I have received good information as to "where to look" for "viable" godd websites

    41516 m RMcMahon
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    I've learned how difficult keeping one of these chats on topic is.

    816 m Deborah
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    From our discussion on Webquests, I will survey some of the webquest sites for possible use in the class. I have received good information as to "where to look" for "viable" websites

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    16850 m RMcMahon
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    Of course, I guess that can happen in all conversations.

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    8733 m Barbara Saleem
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    Druing the brief time that I was in this chat area, I learned where to find a guide to making a WEb Quest.

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